200 - Why Caring Matters w/ Michael Bierut

How is it the 200th episode!? How have I been doing this for almost 4 years??!

Whether I believe it or not, this is 200 baby! So to CELEBRATE it's only natural that we have one of the most CELEBRATED creative professionals on the planet, designer Michael Bierut!!!

In this episode we explore how to make creativity that's valuable, why it matters that you care about your craft (even if it's not what the audience cares about) and how to stay excited about your work even after you've reached major career milestones.

We also chat about Bierut's upcoming talk at the Exhibit Columbus 2018 Nation Symposium. This is in Columbus, IN (my hometown) not Columbus, OH (my current home)... I know... it's a tad confusing, but I promise it will all make sense if you just listen! :)


Michael Bierut

Bierut's 'Seven Things Designers Can Learn from Stand Up Comics

Exhibit Columbus 2018 National Symposium



Thanks to Yoni Wolf and the band WHY? for our theme music.

Thanks to Alex Sugg for editing and the podcast!




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